Love Yourself
with Cammie Williams
How much do you really love yourself?
Do you tend to always help others without helping yourself first?
During today’s meal — I talk to the wonderful Cammie Williams about her dream projects, what people tend to misunderstand about her, and how she practices self love and self care.
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Amuse-Bouche
You recently got 3 cats, how’s that going?
Appetizers
How did you get into Behavior Analysis?
If there were no barriers or constraints, what would be your dream project?
What does the phrase “Unf*ckwithable” mean to you?
Palate Cleanser
What was your favorite thing to eat in Hawaii?
Entree
What’s something people seem to misunderstand about you?
How do you practice self-care?
Dessert
What is the best compliment you have ever received?
Describe yourself with one word.
Excerpts from the Episode
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I'm absolutely obsessed. They wake me up very early in the morning. They're very demanding, as I'm sure you know. One is on the counter and playing in the sink right now, when they're not supposed to be. I'm a pushover parent. I've learned that, but yeah, they're great!
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Besides being a professional karaoke person…
I’d love to work in a collective with people I admire in the field and other disciplines, where we could share clients and work alongside each other.
Also, doing “Becoming Unf*ckwithable” full time. Helping people to feel better about themselves and knowing that the science can be used for that, brings me so much joy.
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It’s about this radical and defiant, revolutionary push back towards the system. It involves looking in the mirror and being able to reframe all of the negatives that you could think of—that you've been socialized to think of, and reframing those into being these really beautiful parts of yourself.
So for me, it really is a matter of utilizing our science to systematically have people fall in love with themselves in a way that is so defiant. I think for anybody, especially any of us who are living within a marginalized community or identity, it's so needed.
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I think people think I don't like white people, and they're surprised how nice I am. The thing that makes me really sad about that is, my passion for human rights is what it is because I have this deep love for people. I just want people to be able to be themselves—without harm and without threat.
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I have a commitment to myself that before I do anything for anyone else, I do something for myself.
Usually, it's going to the gym because I really love going to the gym. If it's not the gym, then literally, I'm romanticizing making myself a cup of coffee or getting a treat.
I used to put so much pressure on my spouse to do these things for me. After her calling me out about that, and me getting over myself and being open to her feedback, and how that impacted her, it dawned on me—I'm saying I love myself, well, what does that look like?
How I show up for myself is really big, as well as inner-child work.
ABOUT Cammie
Camille Williams, MSC, BCBA, LBA (she/her)
Cammie is a metro-Detroit native who received her Bachelor of Science from Western Michigan University in Psychology and Gender & Women’s Studies, and her Master of Science in Counseling with an emphasis on Applied Behavior Analysis.
She is a Black, lesbian, cisgender woman, who is aware of how each of her identities shows up in her work every single day. As a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Cammie’s work centers intersectionality in the realms of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), social justice, autism and exceptional needs services, mentorship, advocacy for Ovarian Cancer, and systematic self love and self care.
She is the host of the podcast, “Love, Sex, and Applied Behavior Analysis,” and the creator of a behavioral science based self-love program, “Becoming Unf*ckwithable.” She is an empath with boundaries, a firm believer of impact over intent, a radical self-love enthusiast, and she aims to constantly learn and live by the quote of her ancestor, James Baldwin: “If I love you, I have to make you conscious of the things that you do not see.”
Connect with Cammie
* Instagram— @cammiepartonspears, @lovesexaba* Facebook— Cammie Morgan* Tiktok— @neverendingmiddlefinger* Etsy— Becoming with Cammie
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